Two-bit argosies of blood and wonder ([info]nom_de_grr) wrote,
@ 2007-05-16 21:22:00
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Hitler or Falwell!
Friends, before the iron grows too cold, I'd like to play a little game called Hitler or Falwell! This is a simple game of Godwinism, in which I present a quote and YOU guess who said it! Let's begin, shall we?

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1. My feelings as a Christian point me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.

Easy, right? Let's continue!

2. This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what Jesus fought and died for.

3. Secular schools can never be tolerated because such a school has no religious instruction and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith.... We need believing people.

4. I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!

5. Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction.

6. We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.

7. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press. . .we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess.

8. This the national government will regard its first and foremost duty to restore the unity of spirit and purpose of our people. It will preserve and defend the foundations upon which the power of our nation rests. It will take Christianity, as the basis of our collective morality, and the family as the nucleus of our people and state, under its firm protection....May God Almighty take our work into his grace, give true form to our will, bless our insight, and endow us with the trust of our people.

9. Remain strong in your faith, as you were in former years. In this faith, in its close-knit unity our people to-day goes straight forward on its way and no power on earth will avail to stop it.

10. We're fighting against humanism, we're fighting against liberalism ... we are fighting against all the systems of Satan that are destroying our nation today .

Hitler or Falwell answer key below! How many did YOU get right?
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1. Hitler
2. Falwell
3. Hitler
4. Falwell
5. Hitler
6. Hitler
7. Hitler
8. Hitler
9. Hitler
10. Falwell

All quotes mined from here. Everyone wins! Except, possibly, Jews and Gypsies.



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[info]threepunchstuff
2007-05-17 01:25 am UTC (link)
I'm sorry, but I honestly find this to be in very poor taste. The man is dead. We may have had our disagreements with him, but he's dead and I think we can afford one moment of empathy. My deepest condolences to the Hitler family.

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[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 01:32 am UTC (link)
You got every single one wrong, didn't you?

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(no subject) - [info]corwinok, 2007-05-17 04:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]handstil, 2007-05-17 01:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jenlight, 2007-05-17 02:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mitejen, 2007-05-17 03:32 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 04:54 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 07:00 am UTC
the man is dead - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 11:55 am UTC
Hey, Pharaoh... - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 01:15 pm UTC
Brilliant! - [info]radtea, 2007-05-17 01:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]randall_jhen, 2007-05-17 02:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabotabby, 2007-05-17 02:32 pm UTC
You tricked me - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 02:46 pm UTC
highlairious! - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 03:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 03:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ms_anthropy, 2007-05-17 03:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]threepunchstuff, 2007-05-17 04:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nom_de_grr, 2007-05-17 06:03 pm UTC
the Golden Rule - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 04:32 pm UTC
Re: the Golden Rule - [info]voxwoman, 2007-05-17 05:22 pm UTC
Re: the Golden Rule - (Anonymous), 2007-05-19 06:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cdb273, 2007-05-17 06:20 pm UTC
moment of empathy - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 07:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 08:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stilettov, 2007-05-18 09:03 pm UTC
hands down - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 08:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]imake1tgirl, 2007-05-17 08:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lopukhov, 2007-05-21 01:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brandeebityd, 2008-07-15 05:14 am UTC

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[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 01:39 am UTC (link)
You must do this, Ryan!

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[info]jenlight
2007-05-17 01:43 am UTC (link)
Ron Godwin, the executive vice president of Falwell's Liberty University, does not approve.

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[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 01:51 am UTC (link)
oh noes interblags

You know, a few years ago, a woman was chatting me up at my bookstore, and she asked me what my goals were. I told her I was considering law, and she gave me a card for Liberty. At the time, I had no idea what the school was, and when I got to the website I felt incredibly cheated.

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(no subject) - [info]jenlight, 2007-05-17 02:10 am UTC
re: oh noes interblags - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 05:24 am UTC
Re: oh noes interblags - [info]jenlight, 2007-05-17 06:26 am UTC
Re: oh noes interblags - [info]tyrell, 2007-05-17 07:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crake_wins, 2007-05-17 08:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]correspondguy, 2007-05-17 01:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]melindaligew, 2008-07-16 01:32 am UTC

[info]murnkay
2007-05-17 01:45 am UTC (link)
1 Falwell
2 Falwell
3 hitler
4 falwell
5 hitler
6 hitler
7 falwell
8 hitler
9 hitler
10 falwell

I wrote this and THEN looked to post. Hitler was better spoken.

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[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 01:54 am UTC (link)
Not bad!

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(no subject) - [info]morbid_curious, 2007-05-17 05:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]erissian, 2007-05-17 07:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notgruntled, 2007-05-21 02:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]agnesevohy, 2008-07-13 11:08 am UTC

[info]bottlroktt
2007-05-17 01:54 am UTC (link)
dude, that iron will forever be hot--if ya know what i'm sayin.

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[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 02:02 am UTC (link)
As Fred Schneider and the Shake Society said, "It's Always Summer In Hell".

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(no subject) - [info]timeapahur, 2008-07-16 03:32 am UTC

[info]apperception
2007-05-17 02:17 am UTC (link)
1. Hitler
2. Falwell
3. Hitler
4. Hitler
5. Hitler
6. Falwell
7. Falwell
8. Falwell
9. Hitler
10. Falwell

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[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 02:19 am UTC (link)
Five seems to be the going score.

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(no subject) - [info]mistersmearcase, 2007-05-17 02:43 am UTC

[info]mitejen
2007-05-17 03:33 am UTC (link)
I got 5. BTW, I found my way over here from [info]murnkey's LJ.

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[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 03:35 am UTC (link)
Hi there!

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(no subject) - [info]mitejen, 2007-05-17 03:39 am UTC

[info]corwinok
2007-05-17 04:22 am UTC (link)
Arguing on the intarwebs is like being Hitler in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a fucking evil retard :P

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(no subject) - [info]corwinok, 2007-05-17 01:43 pm UTC

[info]loveitorleaveit
2007-05-17 04:35 am UTC (link)
I am deeply offended by this. Jerry Falwell was a good man who helped a lot of people find happiness in Christ. He never hurt anyone, and you compare him to Hitler?! How dare you!

Just like a liberal.

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[info]becauseshewas
2007-05-17 04:41 am UTC (link)
Bush with a halo.

Buuahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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(no subject) - [info]prelifecrisis, 2007-05-17 05:06 am UTC
I read - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 05:34 am UTC

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STFU! - [info]obiwanjp, 2007-05-17 07:36 pm UTC
Re: STFU! - [info]prelifecrisis, 2007-05-17 11:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lopukhov, 2007-05-22 10:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]morbid_curious, 2007-05-17 05:27 am UTC
bwuuuh? - [info]maxwilder, 2007-05-17 08:28 pm UTC
Re: bwuuuh? - [info]allandaros, 2007-05-17 09:44 pm UTC
Re: bwuuuh? - [info]morbid_curious, 2007-05-17 10:41 pm UTC
Re: bwuuuh? - [info]slimfred, 2007-05-21 06:10 pm UTC
Re: bwuuuh? - [info]morbid_curious, 2007-05-22 01:54 am UTC
just like a liberal. - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 05:28 am UTC
Such a good man - [info]bulghod, 2007-05-17 05:29 am UTC
Likewise,,, - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 05:31 am UTC
oo! oo! - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 05:58 am UTC

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Re: just like a liberal. - [info]fontosaurus, 2007-05-17 11:55 am UTC
Re: just like a liberal. - [info]sadie_sabot, 2007-05-17 06:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 12:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 12:16 pm UTC
Appropriate - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 02:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]moorewr, 2007-05-17 05:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jamie_miller, 2007-05-17 06:36 pm UTC
Never Hurt Anyone? - (Anonymous), 2007-05-18 12:13 am UTC
The Difference - [info]tcpip, 2007-05-18 01:50 am UTC

[info]terri_is_risen
2007-05-17 04:49 am UTC (link)
Jeez, have a little respect for the dead!

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Oh the irony...
(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 05:25 am UTC (link)
Oh the irony of your name and avatar...

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Re: Oh the irony... - [info]kevbo_, 2007-05-17 05:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jenlight, 2007-05-17 06:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]terri_is_risen, 2007-05-17 06:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]juicemonger, 2007-05-17 02:05 pm UTC
respect - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 03:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-18 07:10 pm UTC
Very Frightening
[info]moioci
2007-05-17 06:10 am UTC (link)
...that I got 90%, I mean. I didn't realize Hitler was pro-family.

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Re: Very Frightening
[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 06:32 am UTC (link)
Hitler was all about the kids!

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Re: Very Frightening - [info]pilarcruz, 2007-05-17 06:39 pm UTC
Re: Very Frightening - [info]driftingfocus, 2007-05-19 03:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aliciarokuw, 2008-07-16 12:34 am UTC

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[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 06:21 am UTC (link)
Thanks!

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Hitler sucked less - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 06:55 am UTC

[info]merzbunny
2007-05-17 06:28 am UTC (link)
Congrats on the BoingBoing link!

8/10 here.

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[info]erinin3d
2007-05-17 06:37 am UTC (link)
OMG! Catholic guilt doesn't allow me to mock the dead... but this shit is funny.

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(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 10:09 pm UTC (link)
I've heard you should only tell good things about the dead.

"Falwell's dead? GOOD!!!"

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Ding dong the witch is dead!
[info]wanderingmoon
2007-05-17 06:45 am UTC (link)
Too damn funny

I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!

Lets all join in a moment of silence and rejoice in the fact that Falwell didn't live to see that day!

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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead!
[info]an_honest_liar
2007-05-17 07:03 am UTC (link)
I can't help but feel that happiness would be removed from all school curricula on that morose day... Being primarily the preserve of the incurably liberal..like children.

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[info]an_honest_liar
2007-05-17 07:02 am UTC (link)
If George Carlin says "Fuck the children," I'm starting to think a similar phrase must be coined by those more well versed in the tasty sound-byte with regard to the dead who've managed to waste their lives trying to destroy those of others.

Fuck Falwell.

I suppose it speaks to my great historical ignorance that I would have attributed all of those quotes to Falwell myself... Ah well, if nothing else, I was giving him a little too much credit for being not only articulate, but maybe having some sort of social manner that would appeal to someone not raised in a barn.

Sour grapes? Nah, I leave those for the communion wine. ¬_¬

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(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 09:07 am UTC (link)
I got all but one right. It was a little too easy because as someone mentioned before, no way Farwell was articulate or intelligent enough to say the things Hitler said. I mean, Hitler was not an idiot – he was definitely an asshole, but stupidity was not an ailment he suffered from...
Now that they’re both dead, may they be forced to look into each other’s boils and ingrown pubic hair for eternity after their descend to Hell.

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You people disgust me
(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 10:31 am UTC (link)
I got 6/10.

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[info]arakrune
2007-05-17 10:47 am UTC (link)
7/10
falwell was a hateful man who fostered ignorance and hate as a way to his own personel power
fuck the bastard
if i am ever near his grave to borrow from elvis costello i am going to stamp the damn dirt down

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(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 01:48 pm UTC (link)
You won't be able to. The ground will be too wet from all the pee.

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[info]mlfoley
2007-05-17 10:56 am UTC (link)
Haha, came here from boingboing. I got 7 right.

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[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 04:58 pm UTC (link)
Hi!

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(no subject) - [info]mlfoley, 2007-05-18 01:39 pm UTC

[info]monolithtma
2007-05-17 11:14 am UTC (link)
As a Christian I find Falwell's statements and actions appalling. As an American I find his attempts to ignore the Constitution offensive. I'm still waiting for someone to show me where Jesus told us to try to politically dominate our nation of choice.

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er, Deuteronomy ?
(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 01:41 pm UTC (link)
Your God tells Moses in Deuteronomy:

24Rise ye up, take your journey, and pass over the river Arnon: behold, I have given into thine hand Sihon the Amorite, king of Heshbon, and his land: begin to possess it, and contend with him in battle.

25This day will I begin to put the dread of thee and the fear of thee upon the nations that are under the whole heaven, who shall hear report of thee, and shall tremble, and be in anguish because of thee.

26And I sent messengers out of the wilderness of Kedemoth unto Sihon king of Heshbon with words of peace, saying,

27Let me pass through thy land: I will go along by the high way, I will neither turn unto the right hand nor to the left.

28Thou shalt sell me meat for money, that I may eat; and give me water for money, that I may drink: only I will pass through on my feet;


Deuteronomy 30 - 35
30But Sihon king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him: for the LORD thy God hardened his spirit, and made his heart obstinate, that he might deliver him into thy hand, as appeareth this day.
// IE : the Lord hardened his heart so we could kill him, thanks Lord!

31And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have begun to give Sihon and his land before thee: begin to possess, that thou mayest inherit his land.

32Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to fight at Jahaz.

33And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.

34And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:

35Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took.


Read on from there, they kill everyone they meet. Nice guys, I see where the modern day types get it from. You lot seem positively restrained.

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Re: er, Deuteronomy ? - [info]monolithtma, 2007-05-17 02:49 pm UTC
Re: er, Deuteronomy ? - [info]maxwilder, 2007-05-17 08:34 pm UTC
Re: er, Deuteronomy ? - [info]monolithtma, 2007-05-17 09:20 pm UTC
paraphrasing here - [info]simiansink, 2007-05-18 03:27 am UTC
Re: paraphrasing here - [info]seanmonster, 2007-05-18 10:20 am UTC
Re: paraphrasing here - [info]monolithtma, 2007-05-18 10:25 am UTC

[info]mrshellion
2007-05-17 01:17 pm UTC (link)
Well, 6/10 ain't bad. Got here from [info]murnkay AND BoingBoing! I'm a regular multitasker. Anyway, well done!

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[info]nom_de_grr
2007-05-17 06:10 pm UTC (link)
Hiya!

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(no subject) - [info]mrshellion, 2007-05-17 06:12 pm UTC
Hitler
(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 01:23 pm UTC (link)
Your game leaves the suggestion that Hitler was a Christian. Maybe that wasn't your intent, but it should be said that Hitler was not a Christian by any stretch of the imagination, he completely rejected it.

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Re: Hitler
[info]bludstone
2007-05-17 01:39 pm UTC (link)

In a speech delivered April 12, 1922, published in "My New Order," and quoted in Freethought Today (April 1990), Hitler said:

My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.

In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.

Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.

As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice . . .

And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery.

When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exploited.""

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Re: Hitler - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 02:08 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 02:45 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 04:49 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]winter_ayars, 2007-05-17 07:11 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]crouchback, 2007-05-18 03:14 am UTC
Re: Hitler - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 01:50 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]juicemonger, 2007-05-17 02:11 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]randall_jhen, 2007-05-17 02:27 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 02:28 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]randall_jhen, 2007-05-17 02:31 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]jamie_miller, 2007-05-17 06:34 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]maxwilder, 2007-05-17 08:53 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]randall_jhen, 2007-05-17 11:03 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]crouchback, 2007-05-18 02:51 am UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]juicemonger, 2007-05-17 02:45 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 02:34 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]juicemonger, 2007-05-17 03:05 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]randall_jhen, 2007-05-17 02:29 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 03:03 pm UTC
Re: Hitler - [info]nom_de_grr, 2007-05-17 03:11 pm UTC

[info]zarathrusta
2007-05-17 02:32 pm UTC (link)
At least hitler killed. Falwell did nothing.

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(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 03:55 pm UTC (link)
Hitler killed very few personally. It was his words and leadership that massacred the masses.

Falwell did the same inspiring hate and fear in the ignorant masses. Sure, he may not have been as powerful as Hitler, but if he were elected president, god help the non-christian, non-heterosexual, non-"moral" world!!!

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(no subject) - [info]zarathrusta, 2007-05-17 04:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-17 05:01 pm UTC

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choices
(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 02:49 pm UTC (link)
nobody who believes in "God" should be allowed to vote.

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Re: choices - [info]monolithtma, 2007-05-17 02:53 pm UTC
Re: choices - [info]maxwilder, 2007-05-17 09:10 pm UTC
Re: choices - [info]monolithtma, 2007-05-17 09:16 pm UTC
Mono - [info]simiansink, 2007-05-18 03:37 am UTC
Re: Mono - [info]nom_de_grr, 2007-05-18 04:15 am UTC
no subject - (Anonymous), 2007-05-18 04:30 am UTC
Re: Mono - [info]monolithtma, 2007-05-18 10:42 am UTC

[info]glaurung_quena
2007-05-17 02:54 pm UTC (link)
I ID'd 3, 5, 6, 8 and 9 as from Hitler, I think that gets me 8/10. Hitler's writing style is pretty distinctive.

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[info]chakolate
2007-05-18 12:32 am UTC (link)
Yes, I got 9 out of 10 but a couple of them I only knew because the level of erudition was higher for Hitler. Falwell pitched to the soundbite.

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